Odu Jan/Feb/Mar 2013

January 5, 2013 by
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Oturupon-IkaThe quarterly Odu for the Ilé Dafa for the months Januari, Februari and March of the year 2013 is Oturupon-Ika. The short summary is: Under the influence of Oturopon-Ika we may expect spiritual transformation, great prosperity and healing. (Please become a member and/or log in to view this article.)


26 Comments on Odu Jan/Feb/Mar 2013

  1. Nanette Furman on Sat, 5th Jan 2013 01:23
  2. WELL, we are having the great flu epidemic in this country. So- yeah, infections!
    So far, not me. I had my crud before xmas.
    Any particular sand?

  3. shangochild on Sat, 5th Jan 2013 01:35
  4. Thank you for posting the reading; I’m looking forward to spiritual transformation and growth.
    Sand? That offering never crossed my mind before, can you explain a little more ? Thank you 🙂

  5. Brenda Beek on Sat, 5th Jan 2013 02:01
  6. As Jaap explained me… sand is a bit like water, in general everybody has access to it, so, it’s not a hard (to get) thing to offer. It also is related to the ese odu that wanted to be read in this odu; as a prescribed ebo. We’ll publish the ese odu as well this week, so you can take a look at it… And just to keep things a bit excited (I noticed you like a challenge Anna) I think it would be nice when you post here why you think that sand is part of the ebo? Remember that odu is like an onion; it has layers.

  7. Brenda Beek on Sat, 5th Jan 2013 02:13
  8. Nanette, same goes for the ‘what kind of sand question’ ;-). Please post what you feel or think after reading the ese odu. The ebo has no urgent hurry so we have a bit of time to make this reading-topic kind of interactive 😉

  9. Francisco on Sat, 5th Jan 2013 19:19
  10. HI everyone.
    Let’s make it more interactive, Can anyone suggest where to place the banana and sand?

  11. Nanette Furman on Sat, 5th Jan 2013 21:36
  12. Hmm, my comment vanished and the page flipped. Seeking deeper meaning here…
    what a day. I do have sand from White Sands New Mexico that seems very very appropriate, being from a nuclear testing area…. scary, but appropriate. Also, a shrine to Shango, so place is clear. Otherwise I would put them outside in some place that presented itself, I suppose.
    Why Shango and why sand- both of those are not leaping to my brain. Looking forward to instruction on these matters.

  13. Anna on Sun, 6th Jan 2013 00:13
  14. humm… Francisco, for couple of years I was “stuck” with the (self-inflicted) blockage of not having a “propper/correct/whatever “santo/orisha” to offer the ebo.

    Maybe it will work for you to do as Nanette suggests: outside in nature, in a place you feel inspired to.

    I would add that you could think about creating a little special space in your home (a shelf, on the floor, on a side table, etc) to have a physical “anchor” to that Orisha. Make it your intent, imagine what you want it to be…. it may be a very good foundation for developing the “connection”.

    As a personal example, in 2004 I started “imagining/trying to understand” what/how/etc Shango was/meant/is. Later came a place on a shelf which I kept fairly stocked with red apples. Then, perhaps something in a store would catch my eye as “this is for Shango”…or a feather on my path…or a rock.

    Fast-forwarding to the present, I did “formally” receive Shango in August, , but he is as unconventional and unorthodox as he was before….aka: no need for a wooden bowl, doesn’t want the traditional beaded paraphernalia, wants to stay in the open (not in the dark), refuses to be re-fed or re-done or re-corrected in Nigeria or by any Oriate or whatever… In other words: he is perfectly fine as is.

    I feel myself blabling too much, and it is really difficult to say this things after too many years of feeling less… but…how else would I/we learn? Hope it helps Francisco 🙂 …..Magallanes o Leones ;D

  15. Francisco on Sun, 6th Jan 2013 03:22
  16. I’ll do it in the nature where Shango is supposed to be. I just want to hear different approaches.
    Magallanes, of course.

  17. Jaap Verduijn on Sun, 6th Jan 2013 15:53
  18. The texts involved are to be found on Oturupon-Ika, of course!

  19. Francisco on Mon, 7th Jan 2013 18:35
  20. First of all, thanks Jaap and Brenda for all the work you are doing here. I think that consulting Ifa for Ile Dafa is really something…..

    As for the sand as part of the Ebo, I think it is like the soil where the plants grow and the ground where a house lies in. I think we are laying the foundations of this Ile and we are planting the seeds of the future events.

    I’m all ears or eyes in this case. I’d like to read your guessed too.

    Kind regards.

  21. Brenda Beek on Mon, 7th Jan 2013 19:52
  22. As I was writing the below piece (see my next post) Francisco came up with the answer! Well done! As Jaap would have said… It’s really that simple…

    Nuclear sand won’t bare much fruit though and neither it would be a nice base for a healthy house ;-)… In the first place the attention was drawn to Shango too much.

    BUT, the essence is…

    The odu was not about Shango, it was about US, our Oris. I think Shango is already capable of what we yet have to accomplish ;-). And apparently Shango was willing to offer us help to grow in consciousness and just practically needed sand to do so. Explaining how and why in the next post.

  23. Brenda Beek on Mon, 7th Jan 2013 19:52
  24. I’m excitedly waiting for Nanette’s and Anna’s reply to the sand matter, and I would encourage others to partake in that, now the Odu is available online. Please don’t feel shy to post anything. I’d say DON’T HESITATE! There’s no bullies here so we can safely say anything what’s on our mind, without having to fear someone wants to cut us into pieces. Also neither me, Jaap or anyone (I assume) will think you’re stupid, dumb or whatever… As Jaap tells me, that even after 30 years of practice he still learns and groks new things from working with Ese Odu as a diviner.

    The reason I’ve asked you to post a reply is an attempt to give you a steppin’ stone to how Ese Odu may speak. It will not only be a good exercise for myself, but also for you. And when I’m missing something, be sure that Jaap will fill me in. Jaap will monitor his Omolet 😉 And the simple thing is, you’ll never learn to drive a car when you never step into one and give it a go. Not giving it a go we’ll never become Independent drivers but always the one on the back seat, now I don’t think that’s what you guys want 😉

    When we read and wander around on the several fora on Facebook we meet a lot of Lukumi practitioners, and they tend to handle Orisha and Odu quite differently from how I’ve learned to handle them. Being exposed to their practice tends to program your train of thought according to theirs, even when you don’t want that or when you don’t agree with them. I must say that for several months it has confused me big time; not that I was aware of that myself ;-). And I needed to be given a steppin’ stone as well.

    I noticed myself that I can only learn to work with and internalize Odu by practicing, and that excludes me asking Blabla all the time what this or that means. But him asking me instead… Triggering me time after time to expand my views, not to get stuck in details or Orishas but that the overview and interconnection of elements reveals the essence of a particular situation, person or ebo.

    For instance, there is no fixed meaning to water, you can swim in it, you can drink it, you can drown in it, you can wash yourself or your clothing in it, it is the home of fish, plants and other animals. Nothing is fixed and no system is closed, it all depends on contexts and the observer; what their perception and therefor its meaning is. Water means something else to me, than it does to you. Ifa knows all that, so I’d say he’s quite aware what Odus and which Eses to hand out ;-).

    When I’m in the position of the diviner a few things may happen when water shows up in an Ese Odu, while I’m reading the Ese to the client:
    • The client immediately groks what the meaning of that water is in that particular situation is.
    • It’s up to me to grok what meaning water has for my client, not what it means to me, when they don’t grok it themselves.
    • The appearing of water triggers something in me, that might help me to point out something for my client.
    • Or, the water has no meaning at all, ‘the message’ lays hidden in other elements of that Ese Odu that needs to trigger awareness.
    This is just an example of the layers that are hidden in Odu; and to point out that no system is closed; everything around you is part of all that is, no use to fix your attention on a single thing or Orisha and forget to pay attention to the things that surround it. This is not how creation itself fits together.

    Ifa challenges us not to be judgmental; as humility in Ifa practice should considered to be the ability to change your point of view, loosing fixed opinions, shallowness and shortsightedness; to let your consciousness become conscious. And not to shut up, prostrate oneself to the one initiated before the other and saying yes sir and no sir, just because they told you to do so. I’d say that is the opposite of what Ifa teaches us what humility should be. This helps in creating good character and, in my personal opinion, is essential when you divine for others not to let your own fixed views trouble your observations. In the end, our consciousness, our ori are observers. We are not our bodies, our consciousness observes what this body experiences.

    Keeping the above in mind, for myself it’s quite clear that I don’t practice a religion but a spiritual discipline. Religion – as well as culture – has fixed views, dogmas and, more often than not, forces you to take a single point of view. So back to being exposed to Lukumi practice in general where most things tend to be fixated, is a clear example of religion, not of a spiritual discipline. Just to be clear, Independent Practice is about spiritual discipline. It also explains why, within Independent Practice, it is not considered a problem to adapt your practice to your situation, culture, surroundings. When Ifa is about consciousness becoming conscious, creating good character, broaden our views which is accomplished by ‘breaking through’ fixed ideas; dogmas. It hopefully dawns on us easily that every culture needs another approach to break through their specific dogmas. What I love about the Ifa system that it is so flexible that you can MAKE it useful and fit into any situation, culture – without changing its core – and it still will be very effective. In stead of the raging aggressiveness of most ‘spiritual approaches’, such as religions that only force people into dogma; as a result thousands of people world wide were and still are abused and killed today.

    Ifa as a spiritual discipline allows people to make the transition toward more consciousness, as smoothly as possible, instead of driving people away from that. If I should force African or Caribbean ways to my fellow Dutch men I would just be creating another dogma, and Ifa teaches us NOT to loose ourselves in dogmas. So, Odu is ingenious in it being so universal, that even an African story can be helpful to a Dutch city dweller. In other words, Odu itself has no dogma, but knows very well to push the right buttons for people to make their life go more smoothly and to really spiritually grow.

    Odu being universal energies, the Ese Odu are tools to grok these energies by triggering the people that are exposed to it. As such, these energies cannot really be caught in words and would be understood differently here as they would in Timbuktu or China, because of dogma. Water in the West is something that falls from your tap when you twist the lever. While in a lot of African countries you need to walk thirty miles a day with a pot on your head to obtain it. In dry countries rain is loved, while in rainy countries it usually is disliked. Again, there is no fixed meaning to symbols and no system is ever closed. Since Ifa knows all about us, he knows pretty well what Odu and which Ese need to be read to push the right buttons.

    It is not said that the right button, the trigger, is being pushed in your brain, it might as well trigger our Ori, without you being aware of that. But your Ori will do it’s best to make you grok. With or without the help of an Orisha. I’d say you’re well on your way when you don’t need their help! When you really didn’t grok an ebo might be needed to assist and provide ashe for your Ori to make it happen. And usually that don’t need to be goats and chickens. A small food offering, most of the time, supplies enough.

    Sometimes a rope, a ladder or other inedible items are required, so far I have noticed that those items often are also triggers to find the solution to the problem. A solution to overcome resistance. When you grokked the solution to your problem, the offer doesn’t even need to be made in real life. Remember… you are a consciousness observing your life. Consciousness is easily triggered by symbolism, though it may sometimes take a while before it dawns in your brain, in your physical existence.

    On the (English) internet we are exposed to Lukumi practice a lot, and they tend to fix their practice to Orishas by elevating them in a way that separates them from the hole. Well, I only want to say there really doesn’t exist any separation, but in our own minds and experiences. And doesn’t Ifa encourage us to overcome that sense of separation? The dogma? That’s why Independent Practice evolves around divination, and divination tells us what Orisha is willing to offer help. The Orisha itself is no more important than you, your Ori, the energy of the particular Odu, or the story, they ALL are important… So there must be an interconnection… It’s about that interconnection, not about the separation.

    So, with this information I’m asking you again, to try to answer your own question. Reveal your train of thought, this should be an effective method to make your consciousness more conscious ;-)! Help yourself to become Independent Practitioners in stead of Independent Askers.


  25. shangochild on Tue, 8th Jan 2013 00:07
  26. Sand:
    for the sake of independent thought I’m going to write this before reading Brenda’s thoughts (as I know I”ll get into a parallel universe, hungry for groking :D)

    I did read Francisco’s, and it is masterful in its simplicity, which reminds me of Jaap’s KISS.

    Oh well…back to Sand: the sand as an ebo, evoques in me a feeling similar as smoking a cigar as ebo: that deep introspecion while observing the smoke raise up and imagine it reaching the spirit world. But then…the ebo would have been a cigar, right? Soooo….the sand brings a message to connect, with the same level of introspection, into all the potential “wisdom” that Earth/ground/tierra also has to offer; a little bit of “help and wisdom is not only to be found in the air/etheric….learn to tap into what grounding also offers”.
    Additionally,being it sand instead of just soil/earth, I also feel the connection with water; either ocean or fresh water and the symbolism of water as the source of life. And so forth.

    Anyway, thank you Francisco for this additional layer into consciously acknowledging that hey, we are an Ile and should work together shoulder to shoulder…. and also provide a nourishing ground for the upcoming growth.

  27. Nanette Furman on Tue, 8th Jan 2013 17:49
  28. Sorry, as an organic farmer the image of sand as in any way something to grow in is absolutely impossible. Sand is a bugaboo. Holds no water, has almost no nutrients, can’t be worked, planted in, nothing. It is not soil. Not earth. It is- interesting. It does make concrete.

    More later I hope- off to a crazed day 🙂

  29. Brenda Beek on Wed, 9th Jan 2013 03:33
  30. True Nanette, and I’m aware of that! You’ll find these kind of ‘vague’ hints in many ese odu. This was by far the vaguest by the way… When I would ask Blabla why this or that… I’ll get the vague answer: I don’t know, but apparently it worked 😉 The only thing I can come up with that often these very basic things are asked for is because of the trigger. In this case I feel that Shango might be very satisfied with a scoop of organically fertilized dirt ;-).

    Part of the fun with these vague hints is that you can get your shells out and divine on the matter. Makes me feel like I’m Sherlock Holmes, which I like a lot. But what I’m basically doing is checking wether my hunches are right. And by this checking I learn to understand what spirit has to say to me; learn the language of Ashe, so to speak. As Blabla thought me, the system will start explaining itself.

    I noticed when I’m on the right track the Ashe vortexes through every fibre of my body. When I’m not, nothing vortexes, and usually I find myself thinking too much… So I noticed that theorizing doesn’t help at all. I used my brain too much, and a brain is merely a filter, that filters out about 95% of the consciousness. The more I think the more gets filtered out. The less I think, the more holes start to appear in that filter and the more consciousness starts seeping through.

    Because of the many topics I read on the restrictedness around ebo that are made within Lukumi community, I used to be insecure of making wrong ebos and such and have an angry Orisha. Except for the few taboos, things never really are that fixated. Gradually I got rid of that programmed stress.

    I once needed to sacrifice a turtle… Turned out that a wooden turtle I owned was also accepted. So in this case, it wasn’t about a living animal, but about something that needed to be triggered. Remember we are in fact metaphysical creatures ourselves; we can achieve much with visualisation, since visualisations are a reality of their own, just not in the physical plane or dimension, but on the plane where our Ori exists. Divination is about balancing / connecting to Ori…

    So, when in doubt… Take your shells out and – in this case – ask Shango himself what kind of sand / earth he likes to have! Just to go and figure out. And taking out shells and divine for it will make it clear along the way, that often there is no such big reason for a fear of doing things wrong. One of the nice things about divining on such matters is that it does appeal to your creativity and versatility to find solutions and stretch up and shift your points of view. So, while you’re doing it, you are already working on building good character 😉 Isn’t that lovely and fun 😉

    Often we think faaaar to complex! So whenever you won’t find the right answer, usually the problem is that you weren’t thinking simple enough.

  31. Jaap Verduijn on Wed, 9th Jan 2013 12:28
  32. “(…) whenever you won’t find the right answer, usually the problem is that you weren’t thinking simple enough (…)”

    Well said, Omolet! As usual you go straight to the essence! 😉

  33. Veronique on Sat, 12th Jan 2013 07:21
  34. ”Ifa is consciousness becoming conscious” and I believe too that one should think simple so as to find the right answer which is sort of humility. In my spiritual environment, one can argue with a preacher from the western religion or other. But if you now go on your own way to consult these Orisas without INVITATION or any AFFILIATION, then SAND is SAND. It has no other name. The only option, which is personal decision, is to leave the ebo/sacrifice undone or do it the way one likes. The client or member can never be arrested by the diviner over his/her decision. Anyway, I am conscious of the fact that living in Africa is not same as living in the West.
    @Brenda. Lol! I doubt if there’s any country in Africa where one treks about 30 miles to look for water. In Nigeria we sidetrack bad government that can not provide basic amenities like water and others. We dig our wells, get them treated, plumb the whole house, install pumping machines, then the taps start running. No idiots dare disconnect anything or send bills.

  35. Brenda Beek on Sat, 12th Jan 2013 13:07
  36. Oh Veronique 😉 I can imagine that remark made your eyebrows raise. And that sure doesn’t happen in the whole of Africa, after all it’s a pretty huge continent. Taking Europe as an example, I’ve seen that with my own eyes, you’ll find a lot of differences as well. In West Europe we live in quite other circumstances than people do in some Eastern Europe countries, where some still life in, what we would call, medieval situations.

    However, a dogmatic view on Africa is created like that. As it comes to Africa Westerners – at least here in the Netherlands – are usually confronted with almost starving to death children and people that walk miles and miles a day for water, the lack of healthy food, proper schools and educational materials.

    Wether it’s true or not, I’ve seen the many documentaries, they could be lies of course ;-). But on the other hand it’s not too hard to recognize agony in people’s faces, and starved bodies that remind me about the pictures of the bodies of Jews that are piled after they were gassed. That look like skeletons wrapped in skins. Seeing those images, make me very happy to carry around a few extra pounds.

    I’m well aware images like these don’t go for the whole of Africa, but nobody ever told us on what scale the hunger and thirst actually happens. Anyway, it helps a lot too show that kind of images for people to help collect another few millions for development aid instances. But somehow they always forget to show the lush and fertile Africa ;-), and when people look closely in the supermarket they’ll see the label on several vegetables show that they were farmed somewhere in Africa.

    Also our government spend millions of tax money in Euros to water pumping projects and schooling, throughout the African continent. In reality I believe that a lot of that tax money ends up in the wrong hands, and in stead of really helping those people who really need it, weapons are bought by their governments to create war or yet another slaughtering.

    I personally grew mixed feelings along the years about Africa, because I think a lot of dirty politics being played out. Also I have mixed feelings about development aid; as it sometimes holds arrogance… Who are we to decide who is piteous or not?

    Anyway, as a child, inspired by images as shown in the videos below, I used to spend my winter holidays to collect money for poor children in Africa by doing choirs for people or make christmas decorations to sell to the neighbors. Yep… these images were usually shown around Christmas, because people are supposed to be doing good at that time of the year. Humanity is insane and manipulated on a global scale.

    Here is some You Tube videos to illustrate how Westerners are emotionally influenced to make believe that the whole of Africa is in despair to give money to development aid projects. I remember I posted once on the Independent group that Europeans are programmed to think of Africa as some country, rather than a huge continent with many many countries.


  37. Veronique on Sat, 12th Jan 2013 14:53
  38. @Brenda. Kind-hearted Brenda, watched some of the videos. Well, dirty politics indeed, they pocket the monies! Many are not happy but there’s nothing they can do because justice in the hands of the wicked and the corrupt becomes tyranny. May Olodumare forgive their crimes! Aase!

  39. shangochild on Sat, 12th Jan 2013 22:47
  40. There are many different realities in Africa as well as in any other place in the world; and not having easy access to water is one of them. Blessed are those that live where wells can be digged 🙂 My daughter volunteered for three months in an orphanage in Kenya, and one of her daily chores was to walk one hour to get the water and carry it in containers on their heads, walking back to the orphanage.

  41. Veronique on Tue, 15th Jan 2013 06:58
  42. Bad leadership is the problem here. They all work for their pockets.

  43. Veronique on Thu, 17th Jan 2013 09:42
  44. I offered the ebo with banana and sand as divined. I believed the sand was relevant. As I read through Sango’s invocation/cognomen, I found out a verse that eulogised him as a warrior that battled and conquered his enemies with ‘alapa’. Alapa is a broken mud wall. Here, sand is one of the basic materials for building houses. They exist in our villages here. One can find the alapa in abandoned dilapidated building. I must mention that I added ‘orogbo’ ie bitter kola to my own offering because orogbo is to Sango as obi (kolanut) is to Orisa. I do not have a Sango shrine but I made an improvised one which I got from my family. I made a circle with drops of palm oil, I stood in the centre with ebo ingredients, I saluted Sango by saying ‘Ka wo o, Kabiyesi!’ Then the invocation /cognomen, followed by my own prayers. Aase!

  45. Jaap Verduijn on Thu, 17th Jan 2013 17:53
  46. Good info, Veronique, thanks!

    Yes indeed, you can always give orogbo to Shango (Kawo Kabiesi!), and I must admit that I like the stuff myself too (happy grin)! Most interesting is that, even hours later, if you drink some water you taste the orogbo again, the bitter taste simply comes back again! So it’s kind of a long lasting snack 😉

  47. Francisco on Mon, 21st Jan 2013 05:08
  48. Ebo was done a while ago. I guess radioctive sand is not appropiate but you know what Nannete, I find that radioctive appelaing.
    Anna, I’m glad Shango has come to give us a hand.

  49. shangochild on Tue, 22nd Jan 2013 01:04
  50. Radioactive sand? Keep yourself safe Francisco 🙂

  51. Brenda Beek on Thu, 31st Jan 2013 13:32
  52. @ Veronique 😉 Valuable to have Yoruba people on board to explain sand-mysteries 😉 I would have never thought about using sand for building a house, it wouldn’t last long in Dutch climate! Thanks a lot for sharing! (Maybe I will add a brick to my ebo).